Comments on: Turbo Delphi: A Hidden gem in DelphiLive?

By: jmg

jmg — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:35:07 +0000

@Ron Etherington: Interesting that BDE fails in Win7. Is that an install/license type fail, or a run-time fail ?

You could try Lazarus
http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/

I’ve been porting some of the nice examples at
http://www.delphiforfun.org/

and (mostly) they port easily, some need a few ‘rules’, but I have not yet hit any brick walls.
Code can usually be made to run in BOTH Delphi and Lazarus/FPC at the procedure level.

By: jamiei

jamiei — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:14:10 +0000

@Ron Etherington: If you’re not prepared to pay for D2010 standard then sadly you have no choice but to await a new version of Turbo Delphi or a Personal edition of Delphi. I’ve been saying for a long time that Codegear need something out asap but we’ll have to be even more patient with them!

By: Ron Etherington

Ron Etherington — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:50:00 +0000

Oh dear! I have used Borland since the days of the tiny Borland Turbo C and then moved on to Delphi. I upgraded to Delphi 5 level which has served me well. I am now retired and programming for pleasure and stimulation is one of the ways I keep alert. I am happy to go on with Delphi 5 BUT I’ve just installed Windows 7 and the BDE doesnt work – so anyone know where I go next?

By: jamiei

jamiei — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 22:06:13 +0000

@jmg: That’s interesting, I didn’t realise that they’d pulled the actual downloads. I guess it is now official, there is no way for a new user to get into Delphi (assuming the 30 days trial isn’t enough to get you hooked). Sad Times indeed.

Maybe they’re pulling them in preparation of a new release?

@murphy: I could be wrong but the key request for Delphi 6 / 7 personal appears to have disappeared in the redesign of the free tools download page indicating that this is the case.

By: murphy

murphy — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 13:57:59 +0000

Is it possible that they pulled the plug for all personal and other older editions of Delphi and C++Builder a.k.a. all Personal things?

By: jmg

jmg — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 10:46:43 +0000

Server copies ? – Sure, but the rub is you need an Auth-Code!! – and guess what
the answer to that will be : Here, have our 30 day trial, and sign here….

By: murphy

murphy — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 09:53:04 +0000

Wow Turbo Delphi is not anymore… Sad. But i have my copy at home Sure some servers are still providing it for download afaik. You need to search in google.

cheers, murphy

By: jmg

jmg — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 08:24:32 +0000

It’s now October, and what came of the rhetoric ?

Well, Embarcadero has now simply pulled the plug on Turbo Delphi !!!

The previous Turbo links now go to 30 day trials of Delphi 2010, and you get some lame spin for free.

Seems they have no long term vision, and no desire to compete with Microsoft ?.

Still, Lazarus/FPC continues to improve, and I even saw a useful
looking PScripter, that is a Script Pascal.

PScripter should have good teaching applications – it is small, but not too crippled, and gives workable results from a single source file.

By: jamiei

jamiei — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:14:19 +0000

@murphy – Maybe it’s easier if that is a separate version to the Turbo Delphi’s (something just below the Professional SKU maybe). The problem is that it begins to make their licensing options look rather like Microsoft’s typical offerings.

@jjb – I agree above CodeGear needing a fresh marketing approach. They haven’t really tried anything revolutionary for quite some time. Maybe they just know their customers but they do seem to be stuck in the rut of only really bothering to appeal to big enterprises.

@bgbennyboy – Absolutely agree. This is what I would like to see too. I would like to make it clear that I’m not opposed to paying a small amount if the product isn’t too heavily crippled in features.

@Xepol – Maybe someone should inform them that its better that people use a legitimate but free or low cost version than a cracked/pirated version.

@Sebastian – Thanks for posting. I’ve seen first hand people who would like to try Delphi but I have no *real option* (discounting the turbos) to offer them, it’s highly frustrating for Delphi Community Advocates.

@Spook Murphy – Absolutely, VS Express & Eclipse have made an entry level tool a minimum requirement for the market whether that makes the suits cry internally or not, it’s the reality.

@Dimitrij Kowalsky – I was the same, I credit my delphi interest with a free cover CD edition of Delphi (I think it was Delphi 3/4?)

@Jon Purvis – Exactly – Why remove some of Delphi’s greatest strengths (3rd Party VCL and DB Components) and then try to gain new developers without them? It just isn’t playing to your strengths!

@Brad W – An interesting idea. I’m not sure how many is a realistic limit nor how easily enforcible this plan is but it’s a reasonable compromise definitely!

By: Delphi Live! 2009 - Whitespace - The Podcast at Delphi.org

Delphi Live! 2009 - Whitespace - The Podcast at Delphi.org — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:49:15 +0000

[...] What ever happened to Turbo Delphi anyway? It was pretty exciting to see them when they came out, but they haven’t been updated beyond Delphi 2006. Well apparently Turbo Delphi was too powerful and had too many features and and a lot of users are using it instead of actually buying the professional version of Delphi. A lot of people inside CodeGear realize the need for a hobbyist version of Delphi that is either free or very cheap, but they want to find a way that doesn’t shoot them in the foot. Jamie passionately discussed this previously. [...]